chavez for whatever his other faults is. that's the baggage he has. he's very defensive about it saying, look, i am not going to be making a sharp right-hand turn in this country. i'm a centrist. i will share the wealth and keep in the motion programs. mr. chavez's social programs that are so popular he. energetic guy. he's been up and down one side of this country and down the next house to house and the numbers that he's been accumulating at rallies really impressive numbers throughout the country, even right here in caracas which is normally hugo chavez stronghold. >> obvious question, when are we going to know? >> gosh, i wish i could tell you, don. what's going on right now, the polls were supposed to close a few minutes ago. they've not closed because there are people still in line. the electoral commission, we're waiting to see. after that, this is going to be hours and hours, and, don, we're talking midnight, 1:00, 2:00 in the morning highly likely. this is going to be a very, very late night in venezuela. >> thank you, paula. appreciate it. >>> jumping out of an aircraft seems